Art: Yomi's Elixir Topic... Avatar Critics Corner!

**mrwiseman** · April 28th, 2005, 03:24 AM

That's not true. We have a natural tendency to like women. Otherwise things could be very different in other cultures, and yet you can see 95% of them ain't with this gay fad.

It's in every man's instinct to like pretty, smooth, curvy, feminine women, just like it's in every woman's instinct to like manly men.

Likewise, whales won't attempt to fuck same sex whales up the ass. They naturally go for the opposite sex.

**One Classy Bloke** · April 28th, 2005, 07:52 AM

I would say Xel has won here. Unless Wiseman makes an excellent response, he's lost.

**mrwiseman** · April 28th, 2005, 07:59 AM

IRT Xellos: I believed we would be friends enough to be able to talk about something we disagree in a friendly fashion, and for my part, I was. Turns out I was wrong. I have taken the appropiate notes and will avoid repeating this mistake in the future.

All I have to say is I must be quite a strange homophobe to have hundreds of megs of yuri. And even if I am, you're no better than me, being a traditional-phobe.

[ April 28, 2005 05:00 AM: Message edited by: -Wiseman- ]

**Xellos** · April 28th, 2005, 10:57 AM

The thing is, why talk about something we've gone over countless times in the past? I'm willing to listen to your viewpoint, and consider it, but you never are with others on certain subjects, such as this.

Traditional-phobic? No. I dont' mind traditions at all (As an example, I don't really have a problem with most organized religions as long as they mind their own business, it's when they're interfering with everyone else like Christianity does thatI disapprove of them), however when a tradition causes unfair conditions for people, or harms the progress of humanity, then I disapprove.This is most definitely one of these times that it causes unfair conditions, and why? Because people find gays to be lesser than they are? Just like whites found blacks to be lesser? It all comes down to the same reason for almost all negative discrimination against people- One group fears them out of a lack of knowledge. If you knew 100% that people were gay from birth, and only attention whores (Which there will always be, no matter the conditions. In fact, by discriminating against gays, you're only encouraging attention whores) will be swayed in their lifetime to change sexuality, any logic that is in the 'gay parents=gay children' argument is completely lost, as one's sexuality is predetermined from inside the womb.

It's rather rare to find a young guy who doeesn't find lesis hot, then hypocritically abhors gays. It doesn't make you any les of a homophobe, just a hypocritical one.

Regardless of anything, I'm just tired of saying the same of the same old arguments, only to have points refuted without whoever (Not just you, arguing with homophobes is common) seemingly actually considering what I've said.

[ April 28, 2005 07:59 AM: Message edited by: Xellos ]

**Xellos** · April 28th, 2005, 03:09 PM

Your counter points to my own don't disprove mine at all. Nearly all? I'm sorry, it's no point discussing something when you can't even put up a valid argument anymore. Don't just say this is a friendly discussion; It's rather annoying when you're discussing things with a brick wall, if you will.

And may I saw what the fuck:

It is evil (not in a religious way) though when it's about destroying MY traditions (marriage and family; fags should find their own), and adopting and misleading children.

Because we all know gays being married or having families totally destroys the ability for you to get married to a woman and raise straight kids. And also, every gay parent is going to attempt to make their kids be gay (When it's mostly something that you're stuck with from birth) because every parent loves their kids enough that they want them to be rdiculed and prejudiced against their ientire life.

You are a closeminded homophobe, whose beliefs ont his subject are rather unfounded, and seriously need to update as the times do. Yet again, I throw out the interracial marriage thing. People thought of those people as destorying 'their' customs of family and marriage, and that they would led more down the path.

But I forgot, this is absolutely nothing alike!

I'm out. I could cite your next post point for point right now, as it's always the same closeminded dribble.

[ April 28, 2005 12:32 AM: Message edited by: Xellos ]